Which Nation Is Bigger – Red Sox or Yankees?
Written by Mike Perlman (contact - e-mail) -- March 18th, 2008 | Share - Save - E-mailThe rivalry between the Red Sox and Yankees is certainly one of the oldest and most heated in all of sports. Not only do the two teams fiercely compete on the field, but they also frequently engage in a war of words off the field. The latest illustration that there is no love lost between these two teams were the comments made by Hank Steinbrenner, Senior Vice President of the Yankees and son of the team’s principal owner George Steinbrenner, in a recent interview with the New York Times Play Magazine.
When asked about the Red Sox, Steinbrenner stated: “Red Sox nation? What a bunch of (expletive) that is. That was a creation of the Red Sox and ESPN, which is filled with Red Sox fans. Go anywhere in America and you won’t see Red Sox hats and jackets, you’ll see Yankees hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country. We’re going to put the Yankees back on top and restore the universe to order.” John Henry, the principal owner of the Red Sox, responded by sending Steinbrenner an official membership card for Red Sox Nation.
After reading Steinbrenner’s comments I wondered whether he was right that Yankee nation was larger than Red Sox nation. It didn’t seem efficient to go around the country counting the number of Yankee and Red Sox hats and jackets, so I decided to analyze online consumer behavior to uncover which “nation” is truly dominant. The chart below illustrates the number of monthly unique visitors to each team’s website from March 2007 through February 2008.
A couple of things jump out from this chart.
- First, the unique visitors to each team’s home page are remarkably similar with an average monthly difference in traffic of only 89,000 people.
- Second, the Yankees generated more unique visitors than the Red Sox in nine of the last twelve months (as a Red Sox fan this pains me to admit).
- Third, the post-season results of each team had a direct impact on site traffic. The Red Sox site steadily garnered increased monthly traffic from August to October, as the team went deep into the playoffs culminating with a World Series championship. The Yankees site, in contrast, experienced a downward trend in visitors during the same period, as the NY squad lost in the first round of post season play (much to the despair of all of us up here in Boston).
So what does this all mean to our original question of which “nation” is bigger? It looks to me that the “nations” are approximately the same size, with potentially a slight edge to the Yankees in a world where both teams are performing equally on the field. However, given that the Red Sox have won two World Series rings in the past four years and the Yankees have not won a championship since 2000, we are in the golden age of Red Sox baseball. Thus, at least during the post-season, Red Sox nation is BIGGER than Yankee nation. For better or worse, those pink hats will not go away until the Sox stop winning championships.
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March 18th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Funny, I read this a bit differently. To me it looks like the know-nothing spend their time at the borderline useless official mlb.com site, while the more intelligent red sox nation spends their time at SOSH, Dirt Dogs, etc.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Amen to this! What a great analysis!! We here at Brick Marketing are die hard Red Sox fans so yes, we may be a bit biased but thanks for sharing Steinbrunner’s words… makes him look even worse. This is by far the best Compete analysis we’ve seen in a while ;)
March 21st, 2008 at 8:58 am
Looking at the logic in his post, it’s obvious why Ryan from Whole Studios doesn’t have a job.
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March 31st, 2008 at 9:11 am
Interesting review, but I wanted to 2nd the comments by Ryan above.
As a Sox fan (and search/data junkie), sure it’s interesting to compare info about one ‘official site’ vs. another, but we know that Boston.com probably garners more loyalty amongst true fans due to its constantly updated news and rumors. There are countless forums and blogs and other news sites as well.
It’d be interesting to do a review of how many search queries each team gets, though I understand that’d be harder to do since you’d probably also want to consider player names like A-Rod vs. Ortiz and name variations etc. As we say in New England, or as we did say… “Maybe next year” (for that review)?
Keep up the great work. Love this blog.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Not sure you answered the question. Wikipedia defines a nation as: “a cultural and social community. Inasmuch as most members never meet each other, yet feel a common bond, it may be considered an imagined community”; and I would add, per the context of the argument, over a large area (national/global level).
Because of this, you can’t just look at overall numbers. You need to look at the location of the traffic. My guess would be that the majority of the traffic is from the New England area and the tri-state area(s). But what about the rest? Who has more traffic spread over the US/World?
Hank spoke about one’s ability to observe “Red Sox” nation throughout the entire country “Go anywhere in America and you won’t see Red Sox hats and jackets, you’ll see Yankees hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country”.
Looking at the traffic across a country/global level is the only true way to answer the question of who has a broader, or nation like presence/appeal.
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January 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Nice article, I dont think it really shows which nation is bigger seeing as I myself am a die hard Red Sox fan and have been all my life and I hardly ever go to the Red Sox official site. Not a lot of usefull info on that site, most of the material is outdated and I would rather go to sons of sam horn or ESPN or something. Also if you want to see a cool breakdown on who has the better 2009 team the Yanks or the Sox go to root zoo and just type in, “who has the better team, the Yankees or the Red Sox” every detail is broken down with stats to back it up.
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February 25th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Yankees are in a bigger metro area. They also get a large out-of-town following. Sort of like the Dallas Cowboys
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