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	<title>Comments on: Search Analytics Update: Now With More Openness</title>
	<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-373783</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-373783</guid>
		<description>Thank you for the follow-up, Max. I'm not sure why there is that disconnect between the “Average monthly search referrals” data and the site and keyword share data. That is, why aren't per-keyword counts displayed? You must have the data in order to show "Keyword Share" percentage, no?

As for search terms numbers, I'm again looking at Technorati's data:
 http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com

Are "cialis" and "beastiality" and "phentermine" keywords really used more than search terms with words like "blog" or "search engine" in them? I suppose, doing searches with those queries on Google, I see Technorati is #2 for the search term "cialis". Amazing.

Again, thank you for the clarification!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the follow-up, Max. I&#8217;m not sure why there is that disconnect between the “Average monthly search referrals” data and the site and keyword share data. That is, why aren&#8217;t per-keyword counts displayed? You must have the data in order to show &#8220;Keyword Share&#8221; percentage, no?</p>
<p>As for search terms numbers, I&#8217;m again looking at Technorati&#8217;s data:<br />
 <a href="http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com" rel="nofollow">http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com</a></p>
<p>Are &#8220;cialis&#8221; and &#8220;beastiality&#8221; and &#8220;phentermine&#8221; keywords really used more than search terms with words like &#8220;blog&#8221; or &#8220;search engine&#8221; in them? I suppose, doing searches with those queries on Google, I see Technorati is #2 for the search term &#8220;cialis&#8221;. Amazing.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for the clarification!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Freiert</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-373283</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Freiert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-373283</guid>
		<description>Otis - Currently there's a disconnect between the "Average monthly search referrals" data and the site and keyword share data. While both of these data points are valuable, you can't simply multiple the "Average monthly search referral" data by site share to get an approximation of search referrals for a keywords, which may help to explain some of your questions. 

Specifically focusing on the Technorati example, I believe you were a bit confused about the "average monthly search referral" column data. This is actually total monthly referrals for the SITE not for a specific keyword. As a result , the 21M number you came up with is actually 798,000. 

In reference to your last comment, we are not claiming that only 8000 terms were used by people to get to Technorati. What that data point means is that Compete actually sees 8000 unique terms. As a panel based measurement company, we are not going to see every search term driving traffic to a site, but instead get a great cross section of search behavior. Search is an extremely long-tail activity, and we don't expect to see every term driving traffic to a site. 

If you have more questions, feel free to email me (mfreiert@compete.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otis - Currently there&#8217;s a disconnect between the &#8220;Average monthly search referrals&#8221; data and the site and keyword share data. While both of these data points are valuable, you can&#8217;t simply multiple the &#8220;Average monthly search referral&#8221; data by site share to get an approximation of search referrals for a keywords, which may help to explain some of your questions. </p>
<p>Specifically focusing on the Technorati example, I believe you were a bit confused about the &#8220;average monthly search referral&#8221; column data. This is actually total monthly referrals for the SITE not for a specific keyword. As a result , the 21M number you came up with is actually 798,000. </p>
<p>In reference to your last comment, we are not claiming that only 8000 terms were used by people to get to Technorati. What that data point means is that Compete actually sees 8000 unique terms. As a panel based measurement company, we are not going to see every search term driving traffic to a site, but instead get a great cross section of search behavior. Search is an extremely long-tail activity, and we don&#8217;t expect to see every term driving traffic to a site. </p>
<p>If you have more questions, feel free to email me (mfreiert@compete.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370956</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370956</guid>
		<description>And here is question. I'll use Technorati as an example, why not:
 http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com

Note this in the Overview box:

 Domain / Category 	technorati.com
 Time frame 	2007-11-29 to 2008-02-27
 Available results 	7,945 terms

Is this saying that, in the last month, 7,945 distinct terms (search queries, really, right?) were used by people who went to technorati.com after doing a search (on google, yahoo, ask, live...)?

If my interpretation is correct, then isn't this number *way* *way* *way* too low? I looked at a few other domains and the numbers looked way too low, too. Am I not interpreting these numbers correctly?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is question. I&#8217;ll use Technorati as an example, why not:<br />
 <a href="http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com" rel="nofollow">http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/technorati.com</a></p>
<p>Note this in the Overview box:</p>
<p> Domain / Category 	technorati.com<br />
 Time frame 	2007-11-29 to 2008-02-27<br />
 Available results 	7,945 terms</p>
<p>Is this saying that, in the last month, 7,945 distinct terms (search queries, really, right?) were used by people who went to technorati.com after doing a search (on google, yahoo, ask, live&#8230;)?</p>
<p>If my interpretation is correct, then isn&#8217;t this number *way* *way* *way* too low? I looked at a few other domains and the numbers looked way too low, too. Am I not interpreting these numbers correctly?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370953</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370953</guid>
		<description>Oh, and in my Technorati example in my comment above I forgot to emphasize:

Compete shows almost 21M monthly *search referrals.*
Quantcast shows 13-14M monthly *PVs*. (i.e. not *just* search referrals)

This makes Compete SA numbers even more off (not all PVs are search referrals - only the initial PV that lead the searcher to a site from a search engine is counted as a search referral, I presume).

Big note: this is not a Compete SA vs. Quantcast comparison. I am using Quantcast here only because in this case Quantcast gives the actual traffic numbers (i.e. not estimated), because Technorati happens to have the little Quantcast beacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and in my Technorati example in my comment above I forgot to emphasize:</p>
<p>Compete shows almost 21M monthly *search referrals.*<br />
Quantcast shows 13-14M monthly *PVs*. (i.e. not *just* search referrals)</p>
<p>This makes Compete SA numbers even more off (not all PVs are search referrals - only the initial PV that lead the searcher to a site from a search engine is counted as a search referral, I presume).</p>
<p>Big note: this is not a Compete SA vs. Quantcast comparison. I am using Quantcast here only because in this case Quantcast gives the actual traffic numbers (i.e. not estimated), because Technorati happens to have the little Quantcast beacon.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370944</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370944</guid>
		<description>This is a smart move. I tried a number of sites and keywords, but find some results surprising and suspicious.

For instance, look at keyword "simpy":
 http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/simpy

This gives 14,879 avg. monthly search referrals for simpy.com domain.
I run simpy.com and I'm looking at its referral stats right now and see that this number is about an order of magnitude off the actual number.

Here is another one. Technorati happens to be Quantified Publisher:
 http://www.quantcast.com/technorati.com
From that we can see TR gets 13-14 monthly PVs.

But this is what Compete SA gives:
 http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/technorati
Keyword "technorati" is 3.71% of its search referrals, that being 797,969 avg. monthly search referrals.
100 / 3.71 = about 26

Thus, the total number of search referrals is 798,000 * 26 = 20,748,000

So this is saying TR gets almost 21M PVs from search referrals alone. But in fact, since Quantcast measures TR traffic directly (i.e. no estimates, that *is* the real traffic), we can see that the PVs are at 13-14M, which means Compete SA numbers are about 50% off!

Can someone from Compete comment on this? Am I making some wrong assumptions anywhere?
I like the service, I like the numbers, but if they are indeed as off as these two examples show, then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a smart move. I tried a number of sites and keywords, but find some results surprising and suspicious.</p>
<p>For instance, look at keyword &#8220;simpy&#8221;:<br />
 <a href="http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/simpy" rel="nofollow">http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/simpy</a></p>
<p>This gives 14,879 avg. monthly search referrals for simpy.com domain.<br />
I run simpy.com and I&#8217;m looking at its referral stats right now and see that this number is about an order of magnitude off the actual number.</p>
<p>Here is another one. Technorati happens to be Quantified Publisher:<br />
 <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/technorati.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.quantcast.com/technorati.com</a><br />
From that we can see TR gets 13-14 monthly PVs.</p>
<p>But this is what Compete SA gives:<br />
 <a href="http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/technorati" rel="nofollow">http://searchanalytics.compete.com/keyword_destination/technorati</a><br />
Keyword &#8220;technorati&#8221; is 3.71% of its search referrals, that being 797,969 avg. monthly search referrals.<br />
100 / 3.71 = about 26</p>
<p>Thus, the total number of search referrals is 798,000 * 26 = 20,748,000</p>
<p>So this is saying TR gets almost 21M PVs from search referrals alone. But in fact, since Quantcast measures TR traffic directly (i.e. no estimates, that *is* the real traffic), we can see that the PVs are at 13-14M, which means Compete SA numbers are about 50% off!</p>
<p>Can someone from Compete comment on this? Am I making some wrong assumptions anywhere?<br />
I like the service, I like the numbers, but if they are indeed as off as these two examples show, then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Search Engine Optimization Journal</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370439</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engine Optimization Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370439</guid>
		<description>Wow! Impressive we must say. Enabling more people understand search trends could definitely improve the industry as a whole. Way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Impressive we must say. Enabling more people understand search trends could definitely improve the industry as a whole. Way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: SearcH◆ EngineS WEB</title>
		<link>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370357</link>
		<dc:creator>SearcH◆ EngineS WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.compete.com/2008/02/28/feb-search-analytics-updates-open-access/#comment-370357</guid>
		<description>This is awesome - it will now allow the general public to give feedback about the overall accuracy of your stats and help you improve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome - it will now allow the general public to give feedback about the overall accuracy of your stats and help you improve</p>
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