Comments on: GettyImages vs. iStockphoto: Old School vs. New School http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/ web insights powered by over 2 million U.S. online consumers Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:48:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: film seyret http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1292545 film seyret Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:32:31 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1292545 thanks man useful article. thanks man useful article.

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]]> By: sohpet http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1205984 sohpet Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:23:44 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1205984 ow is the time to invest in US property, Don’t abandon it, invest in it. ow is the time to invest in US property, Don’t abandon it, invest in it.

]]> By: bassan http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1072129 bassan Tue, 19 May 2009 19:09:26 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-1072129 hi, msj 371 wonderful blog 371 share hi, msj 371 wonderful blog 371 share

]]> By: miloh http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-349862 miloh Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:07:32 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-349862 Great short bringing up interesting forces in play & the possible Pyrrhic victories between competing models... But Whoa... whats with that correlating break sometime around October 2007 on 'Time Per Session'? Should there be correlation over time between the two companies on this particular graph? I'm thinking there should be a constant TPS over this span , yet at that moment between 9/07 and 11/07 there is a striking change reflected in both sites. That's interesting. What happened? Correlating event or artifact? http://www.news.com/CIA-Cyberattack-caused-multiple-city-blackout/2100-7349_3-6227090.html conspiracy aside, what really went on there?? Great short bringing up interesting forces in play & the possible Pyrrhic victories between competing models…

But Whoa… whats with that correlating break sometime around October 2007 on ‘Time Per Session’? Should there be correlation over time between the two companies on this particular graph?

I’m thinking there should be a constant TPS over this span , yet at that moment between 9/07 and 11/07 there is a striking change reflected in both sites.

That’s interesting.
What happened? Correlating event or artifact?

http://www.news.com/CIA-Cyberattack-caused-multiple-city-blackout/2100-7349_3-6227090.html

conspiracy aside, what really went on there??

]]> By: kjay http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-342128 kjay Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:09:52 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-342128 "iStockphoto has much less strict standards" Now there speaks a man who knows nothing about the subject he's writing about. What utter nonsense, the reverse is true, despite the price differential. “iStockphoto has much less strict standards” Now there speaks a man who knows nothing about the subject he’s writing about. What utter nonsense, the reverse is true, despite the price differential.

]]> By: Jeff Burak http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-291319 Jeff Burak Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:19:10 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-291319 At fractions of the revenue per user, istockphoto better have x-times more users than Getty's traditional site. Whether istock is the death of Getty's cash cow or not, don't be overly mesmerized by istock's user stats. Yes, site stats bode well for istock, but unless the strategy includes ad revenue for the site, such stats don't necessarily translate scaled revenues. I think the point that that Andy is making, which everyone has glossed-over, is that istock has utilized user generated content and community to drive a business-to-business product/service. Istock's buyers are suppliers and it's suppliers are buyers. This is the point to recognize. Though web 2.0 helped create this perfect storm opportunity, that is not the whole story. The other half is the proliferation of near-professional digital cameras which makes "everyone" a photographer. Put these affordable devices in the hands of people in the creative community and you now have buyers that are sellers and sellers that are buyers. At fractions of the revenue per user, istockphoto better have x-times more users than Getty’s traditional site. Whether istock is the death of Getty’s cash cow or not, don’t be overly mesmerized by istock’s user stats. Yes, site stats bode well for istock, but unless the strategy includes ad revenue for the site, such stats don’t necessarily translate scaled revenues. I think the point that that Andy is making, which everyone has glossed-over, is that istock has utilized user generated content and community to drive a business-to-business product/service. Istock’s buyers are suppliers and it’s suppliers are buyers. This is the point to recognize. Though web 2.0 helped create this perfect storm opportunity, that is not the whole story. The other half is the proliferation of near-professional digital cameras which makes “everyone” a photographer. Put these affordable devices in the hands of people in the creative community and you now have buyers that are sellers and sellers that are buyers.

]]> By: VagabondoDigitale http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-280983 VagabondoDigitale Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:18:38 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-280983 I like iStockphoto... is must sample ! I like iStockphoto… is must sample !

]]> By: Sheri Bigelow http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-273871 Sheri Bigelow Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:30:19 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-273871 Consider this, a higher pages per visit could be attributed to needing to view more pages in order to complete the same (or similar) task. For example, at least one or two more pageviews are required just to lookup pricing for rights managed images on Getty compared to the overall simpler pricing model on iStock (just one example). This brings up a question of how to interpret engagement metrics. If more pageviews are required to complete a similar task, then wouldn't comparing pages per visit need to take that into account? I wonder if , for these particular sites, they should be comparing task completion rates or average revenue per session rather than how many pageviews it takes to complete the task. Consider this, a higher pages per visit could be attributed to needing to view more pages in order to complete the same (or similar) task. For example, at least one or two more pageviews are required just to lookup pricing for rights managed images on Getty compared to the overall simpler pricing model on iStock (just one example). This brings up a question of how to interpret engagement metrics. If more pageviews are required to complete a similar task, then wouldn’t comparing pages per visit need to take that into account? I wonder if , for these particular sites, they should be comparing task completion rates or average revenue per session rather than how many pageviews it takes to complete the task.

]]> By: Jimmy's Mom http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-273690 Jimmy's Mom Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:27:06 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-273690 I did a bad job raising you boy. I did a bad job raising you boy.

]]> By: Greg http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-272464 Greg Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:48:03 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-272464 Jimmy baby you gotta relax. Jimmy baby you gotta relax.

]]> By: Keaty http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271546 Keaty Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:22:26 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271546 Jimmy: From the first paragraph of this post - "this is far from traditional competition, seeing as how both properties are owned by the same company." Jimmy:

From the first paragraph of this post - “this is far from traditional competition, seeing as how both properties are owned by the same company.”

]]> By: Patacki http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271333 Patacki Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:50:02 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271333 Jimmy: Great job repeating the facts provided by Stephanie in the prior comment. Are you always this helpful? Jimmy:

Great job repeating the facts provided by Stephanie in the prior comment. Are you always this helpful?

]]> By: Jimmy http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271276 Jimmy Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:46:08 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271276 Getty Images Owns iStockPhoto. They purchased them back in 2006. How are they competing with one another? They are one unit and a subsidiary of Getty Images. Your BLOG SUCKS. Find a new profession!!!!! Getty Images Owns iStockPhoto. They purchased them back in 2006. How are they competing with one another? They are one unit and a subsidiary of Getty Images.

Your BLOG SUCKS. Find a new profession!!!!!

]]> By: Stephanie Rogers http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271220 Stephanie Rogers Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:54:06 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-271220 Andy - funny you should write about this. I just read the crowdsourcing book "We are Smarter than Me" and they talk about this very subject. Getty actually bought iStockPhoto for $50 million in 2006. According to the book, the iStock library holds over 1.7 million images from 36K members and now uses Getty's advanced search and index technology. iStock also introduced a unique payment system that became the industry standard - $12 gets you 10 credits; images cost anywhere from 1-15 credits per download. Prices rise with image size & resolution. Book says exclusive contributors earn about $1K a month for their pics. Not bad. Another interesting "player" in the space if Flickr - I know of more than one instance where book publishers have contacted an amateur photographer (myself included) with a request to use their images - royalty free - in their works. Steph Andy - funny you should write about this. I just read the crowdsourcing book “We are Smarter than Me” and they talk about this very subject. Getty actually bought iStockPhoto for $50 million in 2006. According to the book, the iStock library holds over 1.7 million images from 36K members and now uses Getty’s advanced search and index technology. iStock also introduced a unique payment system that became the industry standard - $12 gets you 10 credits; images cost anywhere from 1-15 credits per download. Prices rise with image size & resolution. Book says exclusive contributors earn about $1K a month for their pics. Not bad. Another interesting “player” in the space if Flickr - I know of more than one instance where book publishers have contacted an amateur photographer (myself included) with a request to use their images - royalty free - in their works.

Steph

]]> By: danny http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270984 danny Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:59:34 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270984 getty's entire biz is b2b, how is this consumer metric relevant or useful? if anything, strong growth in gettyimages.com would concern partners. getty’s entire biz is b2b, how is this consumer metric relevant or useful? if anything, strong growth in gettyimages.com would concern partners.

]]> By: Kango Ling http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270788 Kango Ling Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:30 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270788 I'm afraid on the net, quantity will always beat quality. Having a dedicated base of regular clients and quality content providers is fine, but without growth in traffic, GettyImages is dead in the water. You just can't afford to 'not' increase visitors. I’m afraid on the net, quantity will always beat quality. Having a dedicated base of regular clients and quality content providers is fine, but without growth in traffic, GettyImages is dead in the water. You just can’t afford to ‘not’ increase visitors.

]]> By: * MISS UNIVERSE http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270190 * MISS UNIVERSE Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:54:26 +0000 http://blog.compete.com/2007/12/25/gettyimages-istockphoto/#comment-270190 What about Corbis' stats? What about Corbis’ stats?

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