After four months of gray market sales, PR blunders, camped-out fans and a media frenzy, it appears that the next generation consoles have finally hit their post-holiday stride. How did this year’s PS3 and Wii launches compare to that of the 360’s release in 2005? The short answer: the 360 and PS3 had similar demand trends around launch…if it were only that simple.

The chart below shows the demand for all three consoles dating back to November of 2005.

  • The Wii and 360 had reasonably consistent demand from January to February, indicating that they have settled into post holiday levels.
  • PS3 demand is more troubling, as it fell 30% in the same period, and is now significantly lower than its much older competitor.
  • The Wii is still dominating online retail demand, with nearly double the shoppers of the PS3 and 60% more shoppers than the 360.
  • Compared to the 360’s launch, both the PS3 and Wii Generated more overall demand during the holiday. However, the steep decline in PS3 demand indicates inflated demand due to hype.

The future is still to hazy too predict a winner in the console war, so we’ve invited the 3 systems in for a hearty discussion.

: Since I’m so clearly leading in the minds of consumers, I’ll let you two duke it out.

: Age before beauty…

: Fine. I say, who cares about demand? I outsold* both consoles during the Holidays.

: Sales might be the ultimate goal, but demand is a leading indicator of how well we will sell.

: Precisely, I had the most demand at launch and I’ve outsold* the 360 in our comparative launch periods. I’m looking strong.

: How’s the European launch going again?

: Sales and demand are boring. Why do you think you have a chance of outselling me?

: Well, we shouldn’t even argue about the hardware, everyone knows I’m the best I use my spare processing to cure Alzheimer’s.

: Maybe you should have shaved off some of those processing cycles and spent more time on your online strategy… No one can compete with Xbox Live.

: Everybody loves me because I’m fun and so are my games.

: I have a couple decent games. I have to say though, if looking spastic is "fun" you certainly have it covered.

: My line-up is perfect, it just requires a more sophisticated player… you two wouldn’t understand, and don’t get me started on BluRay…

: You mean another Sony proprietary format that’s going to fail? That’s why I went with HD-DVD and didn’t force people to adopt it.

: Game consoles are made to play games, you’re both going to get trounced by movie downloads in two years anyway.

Even though the Wii is currently leading the pack in demand and sales, at this point it’s still anyone’s game. With enough exclusive games and unique features, maybe next year we’ll be talking about the PS-Wii-60 combination that every gamer owns.

*For this analysis, sales data was derived from VGCharts.org


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  1. Alex

    I’m a bit surprised at the numbers, mainly being PS3 is so high. You can walk in to virtually any electronics vendor around here (Dallas/Fort Worth) and find them collecting dust. Meanwhile, you can’t find a Wii anywhere. Xbox360’s seem to come and go steadily, not staying on the shelves long but not flying off either.

    I wonder how far I need to drive to be able to buy a Wii. I’ve been trying to get one since November with no luck.

  2. James

    I have to TOTALLY agree on the final “movie player” standpoint…

    In my perfect world I would have a Wii for games and my flat screen would be hooked up to my AppleTV box and all my movies would just be purchased online.

    Sony failed @ BetaMax for the SAME REASON they will fail with BluRay… it’s a closed proprietary format they refuse to open up.

    VHS whooped their ass, and HD-DVD will be their VHS.

  3. David Cheong

    I was quite amaze that US and UK market are more onwards on Wii, while in Asia like Malaysia, the Wii wasn’t that popular comparing with PS3 and XBOX 360. Well, if i can afford, i would can all 3 units, and test out all games. :)

    Regards,
    David Cheong.

  4. Scott

    It should be noted that the PS3 sold 520K+ units for the weekend launch in the UK

    (info via vgcharts.com)

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  6. Shade

    Hello im a gamer and I test every game console.The wii is much better than the ps3 because the wii can make you sweat fast.And I dont know why that some people say the wii has crapy graphics beacause it dosent.The only games that do are wii sports and Zelda twilight princess.And plus I used to work for sony and they said right in my face:Nintendo has a good idea…lets copy it.So I quit my job and became a gamer.And one more fact is even thoght they copied the wii’s mostion senscitivety you still have to play the ps3 like if your super lazy.

  7. John

    I haven’t played the Wii yet but to me it looks like mindless “fun.” That is alright for a while but wouldn’t it be nice to play a game that looks stunning like Gears or War, MGS4, and for those of you who haven’t heard about it look at Project Offset the graphics will blow you away. I also don’t like teh defense that the Wii makes you sweat instead of being lazy. A main point of video games is being lazy. If you want to sweat go out and play some real sports, but when you want to be lazy play a video game

  8. laquisha

    the wii all the way

  9. laquisha

    the wii stays original.
    gamesystems is the key
    the wii

  10. miro

    can anyone help me please and tell me which console to buy, PS3 or Xbox 360? till now i didn’t find a straight answer from anyone, i need someone who had tried both to tell me which one is more fun and have better graphics, tks

  11. John

    Miro, I would go with the 360. I was in your shoes for a while, then I really looked into it. The PS3 may be more “powerful” but sony has yet to produce the games that the system can supposedly handle. Also, take into consideration that many, once sony exclusive, companies are moving their games, Devil May Cry 4, Resident Evil 5, Assassins Creed, to the 360 too. I’m not in any way knocking the PS3, I think it’s a great system. It’s just too expensive for doing the same thing the 360 does, and like I said, so far the graphics of the PS3 are very close to the 360 graphics. So that is why I went with the 360. Hope this helped.

  12. Jack_Jackington

    miro, i would go with the ps3. the 360 is a faulty system. no system had great games within the first 9 months after its release. the 360 has been out for well over a year and at one point was the only next-gen system out. Devil May Cry 4 is still exclusive for the ps3. the 360 Elite improves on the systems HDD only. The games will come as they always do. look at the ps2, it had virtually no good games at its release and look how well its doing now. game developers want to work with the ps3 because they saw how well the ps2 did. good games will come starting in September and going into next year. then again, Xbox Live is really, really good. but PSN is free and Home is coming in October. i hope i helped

  13. chris

    I think that al the systems are pretty close to equall. the 360 and ps3 have about equall graphics and power ( however the 360 is cheaper) and the wii is very innovative and fun but is barely better than the original xbox and ps2, also the wii makes sports games really fun, FPS’s okay, and everything else ( with a few exceptions) isnt very good, but its cheap so that makes up for it. my order is xbox 360>wii>ps3 I think the 360 has the best games

  14. Jack_Jackington

    you should get the wii if you arent a gamer. i am not happy with my wii. i find that i need people to play with me or else its boring. the ps3 has the most potential. the 360 is almost at its peak while the wii & ps3 are just starting off. in two years the wii and ps3 will have surpassed the 360. the 360 has been out since November 2005 and people say its best game is gears of war which came out november 2006. id say pick a reliable system b/c each system is going to have good games soon.

    nobody listen to chris. he/she obviously doesnt know what he/she is talking about.

    he/she said (and i quote) “I think that al the systems are pretty close to equall” which is loaded with errors and couldn’t be farther from the truth. the 360 is not rivaled by the ps3 or wii when it comes to games and online play. it also has the most reported malfunctions. what the wii lacks in graphics, it makes up for with innovation (its not fun to me but hey). the ps3 is the only one that can play DVDs (and Blu-Ray Discs) without an extra purchase. the ps3 also is the one with the most potential. i want a ps3 because i am a fan of RPGs, sports games, FPSs (first-person shooters), TPSs (third-person), action-adventure games, and platformers. Sony systems always have the best combo of all of them.

  15. Azmat

    “Being a video game developer (I develop for both, Playstation 3 and XBOX 360) people ask me almost daily which platform I think is better. These are my personal feelings, in no way does this reflect my employer.
    Short answer: XBOX 360.
    Long answer: Price, performance, visual quality, game selection and online support. I think the XBOX 360 wins in every category.
    Price: This is obvious; the XBOX 360 core is only $299. The PS3 is around $499 for the 20GB version. It comes with a hard drive, but you don’t need a hard drive to enjoy a lot of great games on the 360 so I think it’s fair to compare both core systems.
    Performance: On paper, the PS3 is more powerful. In reality, it’s quite inferior to the 360. Without getting into too many details, the three general-purpose CPU’s the xbox360 has are currently FAR easier to take advantage of than the SPU’s on the PS3. I suspect a few years down the road some high budget, first party PS3 exclusive titles will come out that really take advantage of the SPU’s and do things the XBOX 360 can’t, but I don’t think the console is worth buying based on this speculation (for some it will be though, we’ll have to wait and see how these games turn out).

    Graphics: The XBOX 360 is a clear winner. The GPU is more powerful. It has more powerful fillrate, and far more pixel and vertex processing horsepower. Part of the reason is their choice of memory, and architecture of pixel and vertex procesing. I can’t get into details but the same vertex shader will run much slower on the PS3 than the XBOX 360. The 360 also has a clever new way rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish the same effect on PS3 is prohibitively expensive. For this reason I think many games will have no choice but to run in non-HD resolutions on the PS3 version, use a lower quality anti aliasing technique, or do back buffer upscaling. The end result in all cases is going to be noticeably worse image quality.
    Game Selection: The XBOX 360 has a huge head start here. 1 year is an eternity in gaming. Almost all multi-platform developers have made the XBOX 360 their primary platform due to timing of release-to-market, this means the games will look and perform better on the 360. The PS3 versions will be ports of the 360 versions. (The opposite was true for XBOX 1 vs. PS2). The XBOX 360 is also far faster to develop for due to better development tools (massively popular Visual Studio .NET vs. proprietary, buggy PS3 compiler and debugger), better documentation, and easier architecture (3 general purpose CPU’s vs. 8 specialized processors that require DMA). Timing has also caused all next-gen middleware developers to make XBOX 360 their primary platform, and they will ‘add ps3 support’ as needed. This support will probably be inferior to the XBOX 360’s due to manpower and more importantly, demand. It’s this catch-22 now that will continue to drive the 360 forward and hold PS3 back.
    The other obvious point here is that right now the Xbox360 already has a very impressive line-up of titles on store shelves; the ps3 just launched, and has virtually nothing of interest. Also, many 360 games are already discounted ($25 for Fight Night 3 at CircuitCity). PS3 games are all full price since it just launched.

    Live: Microsoft’s online support with XBOX1 was phenomenal. They built in-house experience, user base, facilities, $$ commitment from executive level (since it proved successful), and most importantly, feedback from 100,000s of XBOX Live subscribers. Playstation 2’s online support sucked. They are now playing catch-up, trying to emulate Xbox’s model. But they had their hands tied just trying to make the PS3 work, it was incredibly ambitious (blu-ray etc.). I haven’t seen it yet, but I seriously doubt the quality will be anywhere to the level of XBOX 360.
    HD Content: The PS3 comes with one built in (blu-ray). The XBOX 360 offers HD-DVD as an add-on for $200. You probably don’t care about HD-DVD right now. But you will soon (The quality between DVD and HD is comparable to VHS vs DVD, if you have the right TV) so I suggest paying attention to the war that’s begun. There are two formats: HD-DVD and BLU-RAY. Basically if you rent a BLU-RAY DVD from Bockbuster, it won’t play in your XBOX 360 HD-DVD, and vice versa with the PS3. The implications of this format war would require another article on its own. But as far as the consoles are concerned, the XBOX 360 wins because the DVD player is a separate unit. Playing movies is very taxing on the DVD reader, and let’s face it. In 3 years when your PS3 DVD drive goes out due to playing lots of movies (PS2 was notoriously bad about this) you will have to go buy another PS3. With the 360, you’ll just chuck your HD-DVD player, and go buy another one at the store. In 3 years standalone units wlil probably only cost about $99-150. Another point for the XBOX 360, is that I don’t know who will win the format-war, so I would rather wait with purchase of a HD player. The PS3 doesn’t give you this option.
    PS3 controversy: Shootings, Wallmart fights, $15,000 Ebay sales etc. My advice is ignore it. It will pass soon.”

  16. Jagosix

    Hello Fellow Gamers.

    I personally like the X360 better than the other two (PS3, Wii). The games, Features, & online are better than the PS3 & Wii currently have. I’ll give you 1 example of the many features that the X360 have over the other two consoles.

    1.Custom Soundtrack- This feature alone is reason to own the system . Imagine having to listen to your favorite music while playing any game, even though this feature is limited to some games on xbox 1, it applies to all games on the X360. Also the music can be streamed from your PC or any shared networked device. Ipod & USB mp3 players are compatible.

    Now there are many more features, but I will list them if requested.

  17. Austin

    i dont know what to buy i want the ps3 b/c it has rpgs yet the 360 has better games and live.but….the wii is dirt cheap so i dont know which to buy. which should i get?

  18. Brian

    Austin,

    I bought the 360 in February of 2006 and I’m very pleased with it. The graphics are great and you have Xbox Live. I bought the Wii in March 2007. I hated it, well, hate is a strong word, but I was very dissapointed in it. I basically bought it because I wanted Mario Galaxy, but now that’s not coming out til the end of the year. I did like the Virtual Console games for it but I have since traded it in for an HDTV. I would definitly go with the 360 if I were you. Later this year GTA 4 and Halo 3!!!

  19. paulus

    gta gta gta, well what can i say ive just been reading an article on ps3 version of gta iv and apparently the 360 aint gonna compare and will struggle to do the thing the game is going to demand, like the massive texture detailing and the increasing amounts of people and cars on the street, you will be able to get stuck in traffic jams at the appropiate times,use the boot of the car your in for storage, this article says 360 might fall at this hurdle, afterall thats what every ps3 owner wants I WANT MY GTA BACK. 360 can kiss my well tanned behind why but into a meglomaniacs dram of taking over the world with his little white box (stinks of i,robot profusely)

  20. Pickoo

    This is my opinion.

    The Wii (I haven’t played it, but I can imagine what it’s like) would be really fun to play, but I think you would get bored of the games quickly and each game would be just like a novelty game (e.g. Eyetoy). You would have to constantly buy new games and soon the games will not be of a great standard compared to the Xbox 360 and the PS3, because of hardware limitations and the like.

    The Xbox 360 has many great games so far, but it has had a 1 year head start. Once the Wii and PS3 catch up, I think it will start to fall behind. I think (correct me if I’m wrong) the 360 uses a DVD drive like the ones in PS2’s and original Xbox’s. This means that very soon, the 360 will not be able to give such high standards as the PS3, or will have to record games onto multiple discs. If I’m wrong, and the Xbox 360 has a HD-DVD drive for games (because I noticed you have to buy a $200 add on HD-DVD drive for movies) then it will most likely keep up with the PS3 or even stay in front. However, due to all these hardware failures lately, people may start to drift towards PS3, especially since there has been a price cut in USA and a value bundle added in Europe and Australia.

    The PS3, it seems, is losing this ‘Console War’ greatly at the moment. This, I’m pretty sure, is because of its incredibly high price. But, because of this recent price cut/value bundle, I think the demand will gradually rise. Also, with exclusive games such as Killzone 2 coming out soon, more people will start dishing out money for this console. Once the PS3 has a fair library of games and the price has gone down a bit, I think it will start to shine.

    At the moment, Wii is the winner. Soon that will die down, and Xbox 360 will seem like a likely candidate, but I believe that the PS3 will win in the long run. About 1 year from now, I think it should be clear whether I am right or wrong.

  21. fersnizaly

    (11 years old) i have a wii and ive played the 360 and ps3, out of all of them i would have 2 say that the wii is the best yes the ps3 and 360 have better graphics but that dosnt do u any good if the games suck or the controles r way 2 complicated. the wii is made for fun parties and it makes you move and get exersize. though im a big fan of halo and guitair hero the wii is more diverse in games. the ps3 is overpriced overrated and overweighted.yes the ps3 has a blueray disc reader but i belive that the blue ray discs are going 2 become extinct in about 5-10 years. i also love that u can play older games on the wii i espesialy like star fox 64 that was probaly bigest thing for me besides the fact that it is way smaller and less costly than either of them.

  22. fersnizaly

    oh! and 2 answer pickoo yes the 360 has a hd-dvd drive in it which is more constructive than a blue ray

  23. topgun

    @ fersnizaly
    The xbox 360 does not hav an hd dvd drive, and i quote microsoft “we will not release any high definition disc games”, because not every will be able to play them because people with the hd drive will hav to go and buy it, and blu ray is outselling hd dvd 5 to 1 and blockbuster said tht 95% of their stores in north america will be blu ray exclusive because of it destroying high def, the difference between blu ray now and betmax (which ws beat by vhs) is tht sony owns a lot of the companies tht make movies.
    p.s pownage (dont by the crapbox 360)

  24. Pickoo

    Yeah, topgun, I was pretty sure that if you had to buy a HD-DVD add on for the Xbox 360, it wouldn’t include one already built in. So that makes my argument stronger that the 360 sucks!
    I’m kidding, it doesn’t suck, it’s just going to become old hardware very quickly. They made the PS3 with really really new hardware so that it will be like new a couple years from now.
    I’m not sure about the Wii having good hardware, but I know that Time Crisis 4 is coming out on PS3 and I’m pretty sure it’ll have one of those light guns (I’ve got Time Crisis and Time Crisis: Project Titan on PS1 and it’s awesome playing with the light gun), so that’ll be pretty much almost the same as any shooting games on the Wii…

    And also - fersnizaly - how is a HD-DVD drive more constructive than a Blu-ray disk drive?

  25. Pickoo

    And also I’d just like to say:
    When Microsoft turned the ‘Original Xbox’ 360, they ended up at 0 :P

  26. fersnizaly

    i think that blue rays are over priced 30$ per disc and over 600$ for the reader so you might as well just buy the ps3 if you want a blue ray disc reader though that dosnt change my thoughts of the extinction of blue ray

  27. fersnizaly

    within the next 5 years people r going to find out how to pirate blue ray then the decline begin

  28. fersnizaly

    i ment the decline will begin

  29. fersnizaly

    OH! PICKOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE 360 HAS AN HD DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. fersnizaly

    NOT GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D!!!!!!!!!!!!! V!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. fersnizaly

    THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUTAIR HERO THREE HAS BEEN ANOUNCED FOR THE WII I THINK I MIGHT DIE

  32. Pickoo

    fersnizaly - wtf are you talking about? You say the 360 has an HD DVD player, then you say NOT GAMES!! D!! V!! D!!

    Sorry, I only speak english :P

    “Microsoft’s $400 Xbox 360 game console comes with a built-in DVD drive. For an additional $200 (as of 2/20/07), Microsoft offers the external HD DVD Player …” - the Xbox 360 only has a DVD drive.

    Are you saying that you can get an add-on HD DVD player, but not for games? Because they are on DVDs?
    I’ll just assume so…

    Also, Guitar Hero 3 is all well and good, but Rock Band is gonna be so much more awesomely cool.
    It’s also only for the 360 and PS3. Sucked in Wii, where’s your fun now?? :P

  33. fersnizaly

    i think you might b right about th dvd player idk, but on gutair hero the only thing i like 2 play is the gutair

  34. fersnizaly

    k i just googled “xbox 360 features” and u were right it only has dvd playback

  35. fersnizaly

    actualy rock band is “roumered” 2 b anounced 4 wii

  36. fersnizaly

    just did more research on rock band for the wii it said that it hasnt officialy been anounced but planing 2 release it later than the 360 and ps3 with better features so they get better money becuase if they all came out at the same time they would all split profit, but if they all came out sepreatly then they all get all the attention and stuff

  37. fersnizaly

    so i guess that means my funs right on the money.

  38. tk

    honestly, i don’t understand why everyone is going belistic over the bluray crap in the PS3… and at the same time, the fact that the PS3 and Xbox 360 play DVD’s… firstly, how many people actually purchase DVD’s anymore??? Not many (thank you Kazaa, LimeWire, Mozilla, etc!) and about the graphics, like any true gamer knows, graphics in a game doesn’t compare to the playability of the game… I have a Wii, and out of everything, it honestly cleans up PS3 and the Xbox 360… Xbox 360 is competing with PS3 because of the price, and Wii is pissing all over both of them because of everything that it incorporates… Xbox 360 shouldn’t even be considered in anyones “wish lists” due to the fact that it has been on the market for a good two years, and to tell you the truth, it is doing about as good as when it first came out… TERRIBLE! Malfunctions, glitches and errors… Oh, did you say Microsoft created the 360??? They suck with PC’s so and moved into console gaming, and believe it or not, the only thing that the 360 doesn’t have which a PC has, is the CTRL ALT DELETE…

    PS3… PS3… PS3… unless you are a mummy or daddy that lives at Coconut Drive, how are you meant to honestly keep up with the costs and pricing of this thing… and the fact that you only have a 12 month warranty on it (compared to Nintendo’s LIFETIME Warranty), seriously… Bluray, eh… You buy a console for its gaming ability… That is why it is called a video game console… Not a DVD Player blended in with a video game console, and an attached toilet… and seriously, trying to take the PS3 (as well as 360) with you anywhere, you need a trailor for the back of your car… Other than that, this tilt “wish i was a Wii Controller” bullshit that PS3 brought in, seriously, get the fk out of here…

    The things you can do with the Wii, are so much more advanced that any other system… I played Godfather on all systems, and the slapping someone in the face has never felt so freaken awesome… I just can’t wait for the sports games, first person shooters, etc… the new Resident Evil coming out, you turn the controller side ways, and use the controller as a gun… all the capabilities and the potential that the Wii has, are far and beyond that of any of the other consoles out…

    Oh, and I use to work for Microsoft, and we all agreed that the Nintendo was far better than that of any system!

  39. fersnizaly

    I could not agree more with TK. its like you read my mind wow! i also have the wii and ahve played the other. TK i think we think the exact same way.

  40. tk

    Fersnizaly, you have something incommon with the Wii… You ROCK! haha… much love!

  41. fersnizaly

    tnx

  42. fersnizaly

    the only thing i have disagree with is that i love microsoft’s software

  43. tk

    That’s fair enough. They are alright I guess… there is nothing else really to compare it with other than mac stuff… but they aren’t too great either…

  44. fersnizaly

    mac sucks so bad it’s like made for people that dont knnow how to do anything on a computer i like microsoft cause it is more diverse and awesome and dont even get me started on the zune i love its software and the zune its self.

  45. tk

    yeah, i know what u mean… mac’s have absolutely zero usability… and the fact that they look like the only place they belong is in hospitals… i dunno… but yeah, i do agree with u, microsoft is much better than mac when it comes to computers… as for the 360, not even going to start lol…

  46. Pickoo

    I disagree, Macs are pretty cool - they have garage band :D
    But I do like Windows more, even with all its bugs…

    But tk, you said this - “The things you can do with the Wii, are so much more advanced that any other system”
    I can only think of one thing that is ‘more advanced’, the motion sensoring.
    Other than that, there isn’t much.

    And you said that people don’t use DVDs anymore, they just download of Limewire and Torrent sites and stuff. Well that doesn’t stop you from putting it on a USB and transferring it onto the PS3 and (I’m pretty sure) the 360 and watch it then. The less DVDs and other things are used, the more the HDD and video/audio playing capabilities are used.

  47. Pickoo

    And also, you said that ‘you buy a console for its gaming ability’ whilst bashing Blu-ray. Now, isn’t the whole point of Blu-ray to make higher gaming ability??? The Wii has a disc only holding as much as a normal dual-layered DVD!! How much of future games do you think will be able to fit onto that!
    If you have more space for a game, you can therefore add more stuff to the game, making it longer, more features and higher quality. Now, wouldn’t you call that having higher gaming ability?

    And also, the Wii seems to have a lot of ’sport’ games and ‘mini-game’ games. If you wanna play a friggin sport, GO OUTSIDE!!!

  48. Pickoo

    And plus, half of the Wii games have something to do with Mario - Paper Mario (omfg, make something ORIGINAL!) Mario Party 8 (I have to admit, I’ve played the gamecube version of one of these and it is pretty fun, but 8???) Super Paper Mario (enough said) Mario Kart Wii (wow, its the exact same game, only on the WII!!!! thats so AWESOME!)

    Jesus Christ, Nintendo, think of something new…

  49. fersnizaly

    half of the games please, there r only about 5 out of 80 something. yea playing sports outside is fun ut there is allways some k,ind of obstacle, not enough people, dont have the suplies, no one knows how to play, you dont have the space, or the weather is no good, but with wii the conditions r allways perfect.

  50. fersnizaly

    o and if you like mac then you obviously dont know how use an actual computer and could probably rule out any jobs that require real computer skills. lol

  51. areeb

    ps3 sucks because people onlly buy it to show of like i did but now i am not happy with
    it because there are less games in it and people buy it for the memory i think wii
    is better than ps3 because the wiis sensor works on every game and and ps3s sensor
    works in every game and remember that you should never buy ps3 instead you should buy
    360 or wii

  52. areeb

    i think that if a guy has a choise in buying ps3 or wii so he should buy wii because i
    have tried ps3 and it sucks and if you are buying ps3 so buy psp or wii instead

  53. Pickoo

    areeb, please speak English.
    “i think wii is better than ps3 because the wiis sensor works on every game and and ps3s sensor works in every game” - wtf?

    And fersnizaly, you are a retard. I know how to use computers. Probably better than you, judging by your language. Just because someone likes using macs for garage band doesn’t mean they don’t know how to use a f***ing computer, you dumass. I know how to animate, make software and programs, use almost every program on Windows, fix bugs and problems, hack, and a lot more, so don’t tell me I don’t have any ‘real’ computer skills, ok??

  54. fersnizaly

    it looks like we have pickoo on the defensive lol. And what areeb said made sense to me. and guess what im asian so im very very smart and athletic ha

  55. fersnizaly

    whats going on here? no ones answering me!!!!!!!!

  56. Wiilaxation

    Wii Forever. Nuff said.

  57. fersnizaly

    wiilaxation must be very very smart for that comment

  58. fersnizaly

    wiilaxation do you have a wii? im preaty sure that you do but i like to talk to some one

  59. sj4iy

    Hi, I just wanted to say that my husband and I have both a Wii and Xbox 360- he is a hardcore gamer, I play very little. The 360 is his, the Wii is mine for that reason. There isn’t the remotest possibility that we would get a PS3 because my husband loves the games that come out for the 360 (knock on wood, but he’s had it over a year and a half and has experienced no hardware difficulties). I think it depends on your personal preferences, really, as to which game system you buy, but this time around, I am really wary of the PS3 because of the difficulty in programming games for it (a friend of ours is a developer at a video game company, and he said he would never buy a PS3, and that he absolutely hates programming for it because it takes much too long to code). To me, if you don’t make it easy for people to make games for you, then how can you expect to have good games? If Sony had been first to market, then the fact that it was 8 months after launch and they still have very few good games out there wouldn’t be such a big deal- but being last to launch, it matters a great deal. So what if, 2 or 3 years down the road, the 360 is outdated by Sony’s hardware? That is pretty much the life expectancy of a console these days, anyway, and MS will just come out with a new, faster, cheaper console by then. All it is is a computer- are you going to tell me that 3 years from now, what we consider high-end computers now won’t be much cheaper to make, and cheaper to put into a console? Then Sony again will be left behind. But this is missing the point- the “potential” to create wonderful, mind-blowing games is not necessarily the same as doing it. Who said games had to look realistic to be fun? Who said you have to be able to see every reflection off a raindrop in order to enjoy it? The point of game consoles is games…plain and simple. And Sony doesn’t have them right now. And I wouldn’t plop down at least $600 for what is, essentially, a paperweight. My husband and I have an HD-TV, but we have not bought an HD dvd player. Why not? Because, honestly, it doesn’t matter that much. Think of the millions of movies that will NEVER be in HD because they weren’t filmed that way in the first place. That limits you to just the recently released movies. Then think about how you can download HD content from places like On-demand and XBox Live, and is there really a reason to buy an hd player right now. But I digress. If you want a title on the PS3, by all means, buy it. Same with Xbox or Wii. I will not say that one console is better than another. But you shouldn’t criticize others for their choice based on your own opinions.

  60. fersnizaly

    for somw reason i like what sj4iy is saying even though its somewhat of a promotion of the 360 i like that she didnt bomb on the wii or the ps3 but on sonny in general, brilliant!

  61. deadgearhead67

    i know a kid that has a ps3 and its really gay xbox could deff make a better resistance and i also know a kid with a wii and that is super gay omg if i wanna move ill stop skipping football practice to play my xbox because so far gears of war is the best game out and in a few months halo 3 will be and how many games does ps3 have although i dont like xbox’s sport games like madden and ncaa controler setup thats would have to be the only thing i dont like about it

  62. Inny

    I have had an xbox 360 since its uk launch. I also have a PS3 (2 months).
    I think the 360 is better by miles. It has a much wider selection of games, excellent exclusives (Gears, Crackdown, Lost Planet, Saints Row, LOTR BFME, HALO) and unrivaled online play.

    Currently, the PS3 is no way near.

  63. fersnizaly

    @ deadgearhead the wii is not only for moving!!! it has resident evil blazin angels and many other games not involving alot of movement jeez everyone has to bomb on the wii. honestly i dont have as big of a problem with the 360 as i do the ps3

    @inny id say i would have to agree with what ur saying entirely and thank you fo not bombing on the wii

  64. fersnizaly

    if youi do decide to buy a 360 you should buy the elite

  65. fersnizaly

    sry my friend wrote that not my opinion

  66. kaba

    hey guys, i think about buying a wii, i am 17 years old and hate games like halo and stuff.
    do u guys think that buying a wii would be a good choice for me? (cant wait for harvest moon on the wii or fifa!)

  67. fersnizaly

    absoultly kaba wii is mostly games like that and its realy cheap deffintly a good choice if you get on tell us about it

  68. kaba

    sure i will, am not really sure to buy it cuz i am 17 and everybody says the wii is a kid console! what do u guys think?

  69. John

    I have both a ps3 and a nintendo wii. I love both systems and when i get bored of one i swich to the other.A lot of people on this site are saying how much better the xbox 360 is conpared to the ps3 , but its not true. The only reason the xbox 360 is cheaper is because certain things arent included such as free online play.( xbox live racks up a big price after a long time) Has no wifi( is included in the ps3)Graphics are good but not quite as good as ps3.No blue ray player (the ps3 has it in both 20gb and 60gb versions)It doesnt even come with a hard drive.(comes with ps3) There are a lot more things that the xbox 360 doesnt have which makes it so much cheaper. It is definitly worth paying the extra for the ps3 because everything that is needed for true gaming (online, high def,hard drive, etc) is already there for you. I also do think Wii is a good system for its small price tag. so if you dont have a lot of money or are looking for a fun interactive gaming system get the wii but for a true gaming system get a ps3

  70. david

    My personal order is ps3, wii then 360 i just dont think the 360 measures up when it comes to having fun.

  71. fersnizaly

    absolutly not its for teenagers aswell my parents love to play and there almost 40 and older kids always try to come over and play on mine

  72. fersnizaly

    that last comment was to kaba

  73. fersnizaly

    that last comment @ to kaba

  74. deathminister

    “The only reason the xbox 360 is cheaper is because certain things arent included such as free online play.( xbox live racks up a big price after a long time) Has no wifi( is included in the ps3)Graphics are good but not quite as good as ps3″

    OMG!! John youre freakin idiot, xbox does not give free online play and it does not cost an arm and a leg either (50 bucks a year). If you cant afford that then why the heck do you even have a PS3. and as far as graphics, its a known fact that 360s gpu is far superior to PS3. PS3 has a stronger CPU but its so buggy that its far harder to make games for it. And thge software needed to port games from 360 to ps3 is buggy as crap too. I’m not even going to get on online play considering you would be better off trying to put an atari 7800 on line than a ps3…..crappy!!!!

  75. deathminister

    and what is the reason for having wifi on your ps3… ihope not for playing game….guuuaaahahahahaha!!!!! The only other things i can think of is streaming music….oh wait a minute u cant even do that over a wifi connection. That only leaves system link multiplayer. well with that said you problably will never use it because how many of your friends really have this crappy console. and since xbox live who wants to unhook thier unit and bring it over to a friends house… i think i will pass.!!!!!

  76. fersnizaly

    @ deatminister

    what is your oppionion on the wii?

  77. AZPUNK23

    okay so I am thinking about buying the new ps3 80 gig or the xbox elite. I could care less about halo or gears of war. Which system has the better graphics?? And do you think the PS3 will start to blow the xbox out of the water as time goes on and games get better?

  78. fersnizaly

    @ azpunk23

    personly i would pick the 360 elite becuase it is realy versital though to answer your quetstion about graphics the 360 dosnt hold a candle to the ps3’s graphics. but i would definetly chose the 360 to not only save money but to get great playability the ps3 ive heard is kinda of faulty and the controlers r realy complicated.

  79. Pickoo

    the ps3 is kinda faulty??
    Have you seen 360 failure rates!
    And controllers are personal taste. Whichever console you already have, you should probably get the successor of that because you’re used to the controller. I, personally, find Xbox controllers retarded because of the left analog stick in a weird place and too many buttons (the white and black buttons and stuff like that), but its your personal opinion.

    If you haven’t noticed yet, I’m a PS3 fanboy :P so dont take my comments TOO seriously…

  80. fersnizaly

    i only said kinda faulty and i dont like those white and black buttons but that was fixed on the 360 controlers with those buttons in front of the triggers. and your totaly right sbout personal prefrence.

  81. AZPUNK23

    the controllers dont matter i have a ps2 and a xbox both controllers work just fine for me, its not really a concern. I dont know which one to get, the ps3 to me looks better and i think once they get up and starting pushing out games it will do better than the xbox (Gran Turismo). Still very indecisive on which one, I wish I could do both but I can only get 1!

  82. Pickoo

    Well, this is what I think you should do:
    Decide what you’re gonna use the console for: Just playing games? Or are you going to go on the internet, watch videos on it, music, etc. Do you have an HDTV? If so, will you watch high-definition movies on it?
    If you’re using it for more than just playing games, you should find out how big you want the hard-drive to be in the console (or you could just replace the HDD with a higher capacity one)
    If youre gonna use it mostly for games, then you should look at games coming out in the future for both consoles and decide: Which type of games you like the most, and which console has the most games that appeal to you.
    If you have an HDTV and want to use it, the most logical choice would be a PS3, but you could get a 360 and buy the external HD-DVD player.
    Pricing is also important - you could buy a 360 and games, or just a PS3 without games for the same price. It depends what you think is better value.

    I personally do think that PS3 will start getting awesome games, but that could be months or years away. There are some pretty decent games coming out soon like Killzone 2, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Warhawk, etc… but there are also good games coming out for 360 (Halo 3) and ones that are already out (Gears of War - which I have played and is AWESOME but apparently very short. I’m playing it again tomorrow night at my friends house :D), but then again, its your personal taste of games.

  83. fersnizaly

    pickoo the 360 elite has the hd drive in it the regular 360 dosnt. anyways az’s first coment says he wants the elite so he wouldnt have to buy an external hd drive

  84. DrClean

    i just want to say that ps3 dominates it has free online play unlike the xbox 360 also, when it comes to shooting games, the wii sucks..i mean really, if u dont hold ur hand perfectly still then ur aimer moves all over the frikin place and so what if u cant get halo…i mean who really cares in 30 years when all the 360 owners are like guys isnt halo 18 fun you can just be like ya…thats the only fun game for the console…and for the wii…again…it still is retarded u cant play movies or do anything…its best sport game is wit a bunch of cartoons…and for wii golf…the clubs dont even have names there too general…driver, iron, putter lol its so dumb…ps3 rocks and is worth every cent

  85. Jack

    i looked on wikipedia about the comparisson of seventh generation games (i want to buy xbox, wii or a ps3) and i found:

    Games coming up or recently launched:
    Xbox360 : halo 3, gears of war, bioshock, massefect.
    Ps3 : gran turismo, final fantasy XII, MGS4, god of war
    Wii: Zelda, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros, and also a pokemon one.

    Prices: u know them
    Characteristics:
    CPU: Xbox: 3.2 GHz Ps3: 3.2 GHz Wii: 729 MHz
    Memory: Xbox: 512 MB GDDR3 @ 700 MHz Ps3: 256 MB XDR @ 3,2 GHz Wii: 64 MB “external” GDDR3 SDRAM

    Controller: Xbox: 4 wireless Ps3: SIXAXIS Controller (up to 4 via Bluetooth) Wii: Wii Remote (up to 4 via Bluetooth)

    Weight: Xbox: (7.7 lbs) Ps3: (11 lbs) Wii: (2.7 lbs)’
    Backward compatibility : all

    System software features:
    Xbox:Audio file playback (non-DRM AAC, MP3, WMA) Video file playback (WMV, MP4)
    Ps3: Audio file playback (ATRAC3, AAC, MP3, WAV, WMA)Video file playback (MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4)
    Image editing and slideshows (JPEG, GIF, PNG, TIFF, BMP)
    Wii: Audio file playback (MP3)Video file playback (Motion JPEG)

    Resolution: Xbox: HDTV-capable (480i, 576i, 480p, 720p, 1080i; 1080p
    ps3: HDTV-capable (480i, 576i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p)
    Wii: EDTV-compatible (480i, 480p, 576i)

    Storage: Ps3: 80 gb Wii: 512MB built-in flash memory

    In my opinion i think im choosing Xbox, reasons:

    It has an average price
    Best games (kmon seriously wii, pokemon, supermario im in are those for 10 yolders?)
    xbox live
    Also ive seen ppl complaining about the size and i would ask them. are u planning to carry your console everywhere or is that it ocupies a lot of space, i think that people whould get a psp or ds
    Ps3 prices are way high
    better graphics than wii and very similar to ps3
    internal Hard drive

    I cant believe ppl buying a wii they certainly dont know anything about games.
    -first of all interactive controller its not new ive seen on walmart controllers for 10 dls and games where u aim and kill ducks, that is actually very similar to wii, if you have played bowling on wii sports you can see that you dont need to move when you throw the ball so if you stand up an do as if you throw the ball well that is so just acting becase you can just click on the back button and the result will be the same.
    -the games, mario party 8? its like the same scince nintendo 64, mario bros ? , pokemon,
    and other games that every console has like madden, call of duty etc? are you -10? then its great for you.
    -ps2 graphics

  86. fersnizaly

    @ drclean and jack

    i c what ur trying to say about ps3 and xbox but the wii is not just for ten year olds!!!!! alot of people love to play it and theyre like 17 so dont try and put on that load of bs on the wii its primary age target is about 9-50 (yes i know 50 year olds who love to play) the wii is basicaly made for parties and nearly all the games r 4 player “the ps3 is worth every penny” yeah right i call prices like that a bs price definatly not worth every penny. by the way im twelve i hate pokemon but love wario ware smooth moves and yes i think nintendo rook rhe mario party thing to far my favorite mario party would have to be the 2nd one anyway id rank the systems in this order

    WII: I LOVE PARTIES SO IF YOU DO 2 THEN YOU LIKE THE WII

    360: IF YOU WANT A WELL ROUNDED CONSOLE WITH DVD AND OLINE PLAYING ABILITIES THE 360 IS RIGHT FOR U

    PS3: IF YOU LIKE SPENDING GOOD MONEY ON A BS PRICE THEN THIS IS YOU FOR ONLINE PLAYING ABILITY AND A BLUE RAY DISC READER (WHICH BY THE WAY BLUERAY DISCS ARE OVER PRICED ASWELL)

    SO IF WANNA BY A PS3 FOR 600 BUCKS BE MY GUEST BUT WHEN YOUR SITTING OUT ON THE CORNER IN A BOX IM GONNA SAY “WAS IT REALLY WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY?”

  87. Pickoo

    So, you’re saying all the wii is is a party console then?
    Why the hell would you want that, unless you have parties every night?

  88. fersnizaly

    well its also if you want a good phisque (being healthy) because the wii requires alot of music which is one of the reasons my mom let me get it.

  89. Miiman

    The PS3 and the X360 are exactly the same I could care less about Blu-Ray and HD-TV ITS A GAMING SYSTEM NOT A DVD PLAYER! The only difference between the two is one is 200 dollars more than the other.

    (by the way I’m a hardcore Nintendo fan so I consider myself neutral on the whole PS3 and X360 argument)

  90. Miiman

    By the way I,m not sure anyone noticed but PS3 and the X360 is the exact same thing as the Xbox and the PS2 the only difference is better graphix even the games are the same it’s all just a bunch of sequels (Halo 3, GTA 4) Wii has something neither of them has ORIGINALITY!

  91. Pickoo

    “the games are the same it’s all just a bunch of sequels (Halo 3, GTA 4) Wii has something neither of them has ORIGINALITY!”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH please tell me you’re not being serious!
    Paper Mario? SUPER Paper Mario? Mario Party 8? Zelda, Super Smash Bros., Metroid Prime 3??
    And you’re saying that those are original!

  92. Pickoo

    But yeah, I do agree with you that 360 and PS3 are pretty much the same. They’re both selling out to eachother and becoming more and more alike.

  93. fersnizaly

    miiman is totaly correct about the wii being original and the 360 and the ps3 being mostley the same. but most games have a sequel pending on the sale rate of the prequel

  94. fersnizaly

    pickoo why do you allways answer at 1 am?

  95. Pickoo

    lol. i live in Australia. Thats probably why.

  96. Pickoo

    Its 8:16 here at night

  97. fersnizaly

    oh i live in indiana where do you live?

  98. fersnizaly

    sry i didnt read your first comment

  99. Miiman

    OK I’ll admit Wii does have a lot of sequels but it has a lot of origional series like the Wii sereies (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit) and theirs Red Steel and Elebits, Exite Truck plus although Wii does have a lot of sequels they’re sequels in name only the way you play (thanks to the wiimote) is totally different, whereas the PS3’s and X360’s games are the EXACT same game only better graphix.

    P.S.
    Mario is so awsome that he deserves all those sequels and more!

  100. Miiman

    And by the way I live in South Korea

  101. Pickoo

    lol I agree that even though they are sequels, they are still different.

  102. fersnizaly

    im a quarter korean and a quarter vietneamese, quarter americian and everything else is from the slavic area

  103. Marlon

    I’ve already read the entire forum and now I know about everyone’s interest and preferences.
    But could someone please aswer to my clear question: do anyone know about the xbox 360 overheat problem? because I’ve heard that after some hours of playing, it just freak out and stop working.
    It’s hard to believe for me, but I really need to know if it’s true.
    Thanks people (and please also Fwd the answer to mi mail msaborio@gmail.com)

  104. fersnizaly

    yeah my cousin had some major problems but thats mostly on the older modles im sure if you bought one now it would be ok but the only thing is you have to watch where your placing try to place it where theres the least amount of dust possible.

  105. Miiman

    The Wii doesn’t have overheating problems.

    Sorry I just had to say that.

    Also click on my username to go to an awsome Nintendo site!
    (and the fact that I made it only puts a little bit of bias into that statement)

  106. ASK a WII

    Can’t wait for civilization revolution!

  107. ASK a WII

    Oh and wii is the best of the other 7 gens

  108. Miiman

    ASK a WII is my younger brother

  109. fersnizaly

    lol thats interesting and true

  110. fersnizaly

    todays my birthday!!!!!!!

  111. fersnizaly

    is any one excited about guitair hero 3 comming out soon?

  112. fersnizaly

    i am

  113. fersnizaly

    halo 3 comes out here in the u.s. this weekend

  114. Mr. Nintendo

    I say the only people who have the right to judge a console are the people who have actually played it, if you havent played the Wii, dont bag it because pretty much anyone who HAS played a Wii loves it. I’ve played the 360, it’s ok, but my vote still goes to the Wii, I dont have the right to judge the ps3, coz ive never played one.

  115. Ask a Wii

    Ask a Wii is back! so, why isn’t anybody excited about civilization revolution?

  116. fersnizaly

    whats that? is it for the wii?

  117. fersnizaly

    im just excited about guitair hero three

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  119. Ask a Wii

    civilization revolution is a game where you build a gigantic empire!

  120. fersnizaly

    wow!!! i didnt know they made a game like that im getting that when it comes out!

  121. fersnizaly

    october 28th!!!

  122. fersnizaly

    askawii when does cizilization revolution come out?

  123. fernizaly

    I’m fersnizaly’s brother! I hafta agree with my bro WIIS ARE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  124. fernizaly

    Hey Pickoo auctually guitar hero 3 is for wii I know because I have it for wii and it is better than rock band. You’ve been dissed!!!!!

  125. fersnizaly

    shut up!!!!!!!!!!! “fernizaly” is my litle brother the retard. he is acopy cat he dosnt have his own imagination to make up a real name or his own ideas so dont listen to what he says.

  126. fernizaly

    ugh.

  127. fernizaly

    “Fersnizaly” aka big brother can’t spell.

  128. fernizaly

    or puncutation

  129. fernizaly

    or eat properly.

  130. fernizaly

    i’m also a fan of halo like my big bro. My vote still goes to the wii though.

  131. fersnizaly

    Again my brother has given an idea that is completely orthodox to mine. my goodness get your own convections!

  132. fersnizaly

    notice how he says “like my big bro”

  133. fernizaly

    STOP SAYING FANCY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  134. fernizaly

    MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  135. dmob

    um I go for ps3 I mean it just came out the wii to me is just kiddy wow mario pokeman yu gi oh whats next teletubies if your a man you would play madden or shooting games so buy either the ps3 or xbox 360 the xbox is good for games but graphics don’t compare to ps3 buy a ps3 if you want awsome graphics and good games you decide and o yea the wii remote copied off of eye toy if you want to dance around looking stupid and play tag go outside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  136. fersnizaly

    you are an r tard call of duty three is on wii and many more

  137. fersnizaly

    also if your concerned about the sports being played outside read comment 49 please

  138. JPG

    Why does every one thimk the wii is childish?
    Its publishing the worlds most violent video game “No More Heros”
    not to mentchon man hunt 2 where you have the act of killing them rather then just pressing X(or A)

  139. fersnizaly

    well said JPG

  140. DawgsFan117

    I agree that the wii is an extremly fun console for the first couple of weeks maybe months that you own it. However in a couple of years i foresee the games becoming extremly repetitive as far as the way the wiimote is used. It will then just be annoying that i have to jump around and look stupid with the wiimote or i have to settle with a system with sub par graphics if i use a normal controler.
    As far as 360 vs PS3 i think 360 all the way. The fact that they have continued to buy into a large part of PS3’s exclusives is hilariouse. Now final fantasy XIII is leaning towards being multiplatform and the latest rumor is that Microsoft has its sights on Metal gear solid. Also online is just much easier to use on the 360. Plus the price is much lower if you consider that now for just 450 you can get a 360 with a 120G harddrive and its still 150 less than the 80G PS3.
    But what we really need to look at is the true genius in Microsofts deciscion to release the 360 a year early. Look into the future about five years and think how much that year will mean for the generation after this one. Microsoft could either release that system more than a year before Sony or Nintendo or if they chose devote that entire extrayear to perfecting said console. I understand that thats along time from now but i just think that its funny that microsoft started doing game consoles so much later than sony or nintendo and yet they are already ahead of both of them.

  141. DawgsFan117

    One other thing that turned me off to the wii was Red Steel. How do you screw up that bad. It was way overhyped and then the controls sucked.

  142. fersnizaly

    i cant say i disagree with dawg in the 360 and ps3 issue but he is also right about red steel that ame sucked.

  143. DawgsFan117

    Wow ive been readin back over this blog and ive relized how weak peoples stabs at the 360 are. Some moron said that all the 360 offers is a bunch of sequels. Well if you would like heres a list of the best games for 360 that arent sequels. Bioshock, Gears of War, Assassins creed, Mass Effect, Timeshift, Jericho, Lost Planet, The Darkness, Dead Rising, Crackdown, Saints Row, Prey, Just Cause, and Condemed just to name a few. Also those sequels are all amazing. So weak argument.

  144. JPG

    But DawgsFan117 gaming has allways been repdidtive. haven’t you notesed the ps1’s controler is exacly the same as the ps2’s and and ps3’s (with the exeption of the half-assed motion sensor). The prossesers for ps2 were just an upgrade from the ps1 with a buggy dvd player shoved in its thogt same as ps3. After seeing and playing 360 and owning the origanal Xbox i saw no difference in the consoles exept for the gaphics and missing wires.

    Now the wii on the other hand has shown somthing new and creative that will probably revoltionize gaming forever.

  145. JPG

    oh and specing of repeditiveness WHY IS EVERY ONE SO HYPED UP ABOUT SECULES THERE EXEACLY THE SAME!!! srsly FF 13 holy crap haven’t you had enough of that and almost all of the comments about good games for PS3/360 have a game with 3 or more on the end

    PS My friends 360 Doesn’t work the game always freeze or melt? and the 360 has some sort of red ring aroung it but its only 3/4 full and the mechainc says theres nothing wrong with its + he’s getting relly desperate any help will be apresiated thx

  146. DawgsFan117

    JPG did you even read my last comment. I clearly listed some of the greatest games for the 360 that are not sequels and those are only the ones ive played all the way through. Also i don’t have a problem with the concept of the wii just how they pulled it off. They sacraficied graphics for innovation and then didnt pull it off that well. On shooting games the sensativity of the wii mote is ridiculouse and just takes the fun out of it.
    Also please don’t tell me you think the wiis list of games is original. Yet another mario game, another supersmashbros game, another zelda game, and another metroid game. So really the sad thing is that those games (which most of them were first made on the original nintendo or the 64) are the only really good selling games for the wii.
    Oh and while the early 360’s did have a problem with the red ring of death its not all that common now. Also if you have that problem then send your 360 to microsoft for repair and they will charge you nothing. Oh and i have never had a game melt and i have had my 360 since it was released so please before you bash a system do some research.

  147. DawgsFan117

    Oh and as far as the wii revolutionizing gaming for ever i truly don’t see it that way. Years from now i think people will look back to the wii and remark about how it was an ingenious idea if only it had been pulled off better. I think the future of gaming will move towards virtual reality (No time soon) when it moves away from the controller based gaming. I just don’t think that motion sensative controllers will play a giant role in the history of gaming because it has been done before. Maybe not on such a large scale but it has been done before. It can even be traced back to the days of duck hunt.

  148. fersnizaly

    I like how Jpg put it however the games for the 360 are awesome regaurdless of sequal or what ever and nintendo has created something inovative however they did sacrifice but maybe next year nintendo will come with a higher graphics wii with the same ammount of inovation. Im kind of mad that guitair hero III hasnt sold just the guitar and im mad that you have to buy the game with controler.

  149. DawgsFan117

    That last comment wasn’t fair. Duck Hunt had better accuracy. LoL

  150. fersnizaly

    true have you guys seen the wii blaster thing?

  151. DawgsFan117

    That doesnt seem probable does it fersnizaly. A higher graphics wii stille probably wouldn’t have the 360/PS3 graphics level and it would involve a major pricejump. just doesn’t seem likely.

  152. JPG

    Your duck hunt gun works… lucky b*sterd have 3 and they all don’t work

  153. DawgsFan117

    LOL. JPG that was the joke evryone knows duck hunt has sucky accuracy but its still better than the shooters on the wii.

  154. JPG

    I know but my guns still don’t work :( But i have to agree with u guys there nintendo hiring all the wrong compays for fps and otss but i heard metroid way relly accurate.

  155. Dean

    I think price is alwaysa main factor with anything, the Wii is cheaper to make (so i would of thought) and cheaper to sell. With fact remaining alone that the wii is very cheap already in my opinion will make it the winner. i wouldnt dream of buying my son a console for x-mas at the price of 400 but im fone with 180. If i new nothing about games i would go with that instantly because of the price.

    Saying that im a HD freak i have to buy everything in blue ray and hddvd with HDMI cables with full hd tvs and so on, when im wotching somthing in none hd i cant help but think eather “this looks shit” or “this would look amazing in hd” and the wii is the only console thats not hd format… actulry it is hd but the lowest form of hd there is that they dont even class it as hd, but is above Standard Definition. i have to admit i wouldnt mind seeing mario galaxy in 1080P. however i thinka high % of peaple will not give to shits, which is also why the fact 360 n ps3 doesnt have that much of an advantage with use of gallons of power… not yet anyway. im sure in years to come everyone will be using HD but by then nintendo will surly relies somthing like WIIHD there next home console to keep up with the time lol 360 n ps3 seem to be very in the future, when wii seems just right for its time and contempory. i love all 3 but just stating some fact why i think wii wil win

    ps3 is also set for a 10 year plan which meens if and when nintendo and MS get round to releasing there new home cose in lets say 5 years, sure they will have a big advantage over the ps3 because they no exacly how to counter it. 2 fresh consoles vrs a console 5 years old?? the ps3 will fall behind exept its dedicated fans. so looking far into the future i think the ps3 wont fade away but will drop in popularity and be old news. care to proove me wrong Sony? whats you big amazing plan after 5 years.. bring out a slim line ps3?

    Wii remote, very diferant, not every one will want to switch from good old tradition controller to the wii remote…. not just yet anyway. but for the most of the peaple out there this wil look very fresh and exiting. a lot of peaple will fear the gimmic with it, and are probly correct when playing a shity rushed wii game. but if you grab ure self a copy of, metroid prime 3, mario galaxy, wario waire and some others you will see that it works amazing and it will not get boring.

    HD is the future, FUTURE. i personaly feel the wii was relies to late and the ps3 and 360 to erly. Wii should of been reliesed in 2005. and the 360 and ps3 in end of 2008.at this moment in time its a mix match of who has HD or not. but like i said b4 most ppl wont have HD.

    i have wrote alot and could go on a million more resons why i think the wii will come on top.
    so thats leaves ps3 and 360? which will win out the two of them… im only here to gove my views who will come out on top, not who will be 2nd so ill leave that up to you.

    thanx for reading and if you disagree with me… then you obvosly like the ps3 or 360 better lol

  156. Dean

    PART 2: READ PART 1 FIRST

    thought i would write some more why i think the wii will come out on top.

    peaple point out some pety shit like “the wii is nice and small n the other 2 are big” … ive never herd such a shity exuse. its smaller so its better? bull shit. but i do think other resons make it the best of the 3.

    the thing i love about the wii, is its more fun to wotch the person playing on the wii then acturly looking on the screen, you dont need to admire graphics when you can wotch ure friend pumping up a bloon with his wii remote and making a complete twat of him self. Having said that wii is a very peaples game, i do agree being billy no mates the ps3 and 360 is more fun. but i spend most of my time with freinds and family and wii is always the way if wer in the mood for video games… i mainly use my ps3 for blue ray movies with my friends and the 360 to be extra sad and slag peaple of on xbox live though the head set because we realy havnt got anything better to do on a work night.

    i guess a console works around ure life and depending in ure life stile will deturming the console right for you. the wii defantly fits with my life. i dont have much time for games so i want something i can jump strate into with some friends and have a quik laff.

    BUT, that dosnt determing who will come out on top.

    really to simply put it the console that sells the most will win ultimatly win. and it will be the Wii because of its really cheap price, the curiosity to try it out because its diferant and the fact that with in all that it is good fun. all these little elements together makes me think the wii will come out on top.

    Thanks.

  157. DawgsFan117

    Well through your moronic comments i beleive that you have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt you are not a gamer Dean. You just wrote a six paragraph essay that souded like you kissin some butt at nintendo. I love the way that when you mentioned the new nintendo console in 5 years you neglected to acknowledge that more than likely microsoft will have its new system by then as well. Oh and gaming is about the games and to put it simply nintendo sucks at makin them this generation. They screwed up redsteel, they screwed up manhunt 2, and most of there other titles without the words mario, zelda and metroid in them.

    So by doing this they lost there originality gimic and that is bad for them. I have seven different friends that have either a PS3 or Xbox 360 plus a wii. None of them touch there wii and none of them have more than 3 games for it. Thats were nintendo is losing its money is game sales. You realise that for every 4 copies of halo 3 that were bought that equals the price of one wii. Hmm work those numbers in and its a much closer match between 360 and wii because 360 has tons of high quality games. The wii not so much.

    One other thing you said was that the 360 and PS3 were for the future not the present. What the hell does that mean i meen come on thats like saying no cars are to futureistic to me i think ill ride my horse to work. Technology is constantly improving and what is out now is present technology you dumb twit. All you did in your entire two entries was make stupid excuse for the wii’s downfalls. You said it has bad graphics but the price is great. Well upon release the wii was only 50 dollars less than the core 360. Hmm settle for a sucky gaming system that can offer nothing but gimmics old mario games and an overly sensative motion based controller or chip in 50 bucks to play some of the most amzing games ever.
    Face it oneday when mario runs out of steem and can’t carry nintendo on his tiny water gun shotin go cart ridin back then the company will go up in flames becaus they just cant create anything new. Also closing point is that when your “next gen” nintendo system shares alot of releases with the PS2 you have a problem. Please don’t leave anymore comments.

  158. JPG

    Why are you getting so personal its just a game consloe. Its just his opinion and in my contery the arcade is $150 more expensive than the wii yet alone the core.

    PS manhunt 2 got better reveiws for wii than ps2 and psp

  159. JPG

    and BTW my comp crash 3 times trying to send this thats how reliable i feel microsoft is

  160. DawgsFan117

    Not tryin to get personel i am just tyired of people writin about stuff they know nothin about. Oh and ur comp crash was probly ur fault for loadin so much junk u don’t need on to it.

  161. JPG

    na my pc like my xbox Coughs splutters and crashes every thing it doesn’t like
    any way jus came to correct myself arcade has sold out and CORE is about $136 more expensive then the wii and i also heard the chip count for these upgrades were about $30 differance per upgrade (PS3)

  162. DawgsFan117

    Do you know what ur talkin about. A Nintendo Wii if you can find one cost $249.99 and a 360 that comes with a game and the 20G harddrive is only $100 dollars more. However at target.com you can purchase a preowned 360 that has been quality tested and comes with everything it originaly came with for $249.99. hmm thats a familiar price oh wait its the same as the wii so the whole idea of how cheap a wii is is gone.

  163. JPG

    But then your comaring a preowned 360 to a first hand wii so it relly screws up the comparasen (bad spelling) in NZ we don’t have target so we usually buy at eb games so a preowneed 360 with 2 games is about $475 about the same price as a first hand wii but a secod hand wii is usualy $300 with one game and a preowned game is usaly $60 makking a preoened wii with 2 games $360 and thats the cheapst 360 aswell.

    Man this thread is dead lets move to anther one a diss some ps3 fanboy XD

  164. fersnizally

    do you guys perfer windows, linyx, or crappy mac? i perfer windows personly.

  165. B. O. Davis

    DawgsFan117, you can’t bash the wii because you can’t shoot! MP3=BEST FPS CONTROLLS EVER! You, my friend need to steady your hands. You can adjust the sensitivity if you’re really having problems. I think wii games look great! Metroid Prime 3’s environments and art design were astronomical! (no pun intended). And Super Mario Galaxy’s character designs were (as always) a little goofy, but the graphics certainly weren’t! VERY hi-quality…especially the backrounds. I don’t understand why people say the wii has bad graphics, probrably because of the numerous “wii-this, wii-that” games which use very cartoony visuals ON PURPOSE! But ps3 needs to get more exclusives on their list if they want to beat the elder xbox360.

  166. B. O. Davis

    REGARDING COMMENT 156: Dean, watch your lauguage! (Is that a threat?) NO it’s NOT! But I’m here to tell you what the difference is between a fact and an excuse. (In a nutshell) Excuses are usually used to get someone or “something” out of a corner. “The wii is nice/cute”. That could sound like an excuse to some. The wii IS smaller than it’s rivals - Now, that’s a FACT! Let me ask you something, Dean. Why do you think record players were replaced by CD players and why CD players were replaced by ipods? Because people wanted something smaller. The idea that smaller is better is an opinion. But when you ask for an argument against that idea, you don’t so much as hear a cricket chirping. Can you believe it?! People acually want electronics that take up less space! Sony with their Ps2(second model) got the message! And guess what?! So did Nintendo with Gamecube and wii…My brothers’ xbox360 is almost 4x the size of our wii -(fact)- and it’s louder than my dad’s susuki! -(almost a fact but still an exaggeration)…The wii on the other hand is a bit quieter -(fact)- Sorry to rant on like a idiot, but it seems like everyone does defend the wii the same way “bad graphics, but good gameplay”, boulderdash! I’m one of the few people who actually know about wii’s hidden graphical power. Metroid prime 3, anyone? No? Well, how about Super Mario Galaxy? No? Err…What kind of of wii fans are you? Oh, and REGARDING COMMENT 61: About calling consoles “gay” and “super gay”,…grow up…

    Ok, lay it on me! LET ME GUESS “What are you talking about?” “The wii’s weak!” “Shut up, new guy” Ah, yes…This should be intersting…

  167. mrman

    the wii is the best coz its got a motion sensor. the ps3 is just anything else, a normal console and a normal way of playing, but the wii is sightly different in that respect

  168. B. O. Davis

    Yeah, I mean, I’m not saying that the wii has better graphics than xbox360. I’m just saying that any system can have good graphics, but you need developers that know what they’re doing. For example, everyone thought GC had bad graphics, but a lot of those people never played the RE games that were on it. Character/creature models were better than a lot things from ps2/xbox. And when RE4 was ported to ps2 it just didn’t look as good. The wii version looked a little better than the GCV, but not because the wii’s weak…But because Capcom did such good job with the first version. Even though Gamecube was known for goofy party games, MOST of which had less than serious - BECAUSE THEY WERN’T SERIOUS GAMES. Do you REALLY want Mario to fight Krouser instead of Bowser?!
    “PREPARE FOR YOUR DEATH, MARIO!”
    “MAMA-MIA!”
    When GC had RE4, the graghics were astounding for 2005! Why, because it was a serious game! I believe having that game poorly ported on the ps2 (with little info trinkets-woopi!) played a role in the down fall of GC. The best looking game of ‘05 -on GC!- @ someone sold out to sony! I guess that makes me think of ps3. Those guys need more exclusives or they’re going to lose to xbox360! If not to the wii! Their only hope is to keep those ‘09 FF titles on ps3. If those go on xbox360 than nothing will stop them @ soon…BILL GATES WILL OWN THE OTHER HALF OF THE WORLD!! NOOO!! Ps3 @ wii need to “join forces” like they did in ‘05. “Sorry, Microsoft, but no RE4 for you! HA!HA!HA!” Listen, Ps3 fans @ stay frosty! Xbox360 and wii have tons of great games that are exclusives. The Bioshock and COD4 games, the Mario/Metroid related games, etc. And both are consoles with reasonable prices (less than 2.5 weeks worth of pay!) Xbox360 core’s only $50 more than wii, so PLEASE don’t say the wii’s “cheap” like it’ll fall apart like the USSR in ‘92. It only cost $250 because it wasn’t constructed with F-16 jet parts! It’s small, quiet, LOW PRICE @ +visuals!

  169. B. O. Davis

    TYPO ALERT: “MOST of which had less than serious GRAPHICS -
    I forgot to put that in there! SORRY!

  170. B. O. Davis

    Just ONE more thing: When I said “CORE”, I meant ARCADE! Sorry…AGAIN!

  171. XRockStarDaveX

    you must understand that the wii is not a next gen. the wii is nintendos prototype for their next gen. yes a prototype, just like the ps3. i dont cair what you say the ps3 is sonys prototype in the fact it was shiped about 1 and ahalf years early. any way nintendo will have a nexy gen capable of all that next gen suff when they want. they have over 35 designes pants for next gen sysyems. 35!!!

  172. B. O. Davis

    That’s interesting to hear(read)… Both the wii and ps3 are just preludes of what we thought they were? What about the 360? That thing was out way before the others but THAT’S not a prototype? I’m not entirely doubting what you wrote but where did you find that info? Well, anyway…prototype or not, the wii is a cool crisp system that has earned my respect in a lot of categories, which I specified earlier. But even I have to admit that the 360 is beating the other two as far as game rosters go…”ps4″ and “SUPER wii”… That should be interesting…

  173. dre

    i tottaly agree with fersnizally n pickoo n jpg wii is not childish omfg!!! are you people dumb besides 17 year olds want to buy it retards!!!! all the ps3 fans rot in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  174. dre

    oh a nother thing if you acecpt wii for what it is you will learn to love it @ dean you are completely dumb man you guys are stupid grow up n get a life besides wii is not noticed for it’s size fool for it’s cabability fool omfg you are so dumb!!!!!!!!!!!

  175. dre

    one more thing at one point ps3 hade 20 games and wii hade 57 next time think before you place a comment as a mater of fact do research for all you are doing is saying/writing crap and you dont know what you are saying ass

  176. dre

    by the way wats wrong with the f***ing time man?

  177. dre

    this website time is wrong as a matere of fact pickoo i think you are wrong it as a part to play you know that you are located in austrailia but the time on this website is wrong

  178. B. O. Davis

    Acually, dre, I didn’t mean that ps3 and wii had roughly the same amount of games. I was just saying the 360 has quite a handful of great games already out and more to be released in the future. Unless you were addressing someone else…Oh well…But there’s a few great games on the wii, too. I don’t have a ps3 so I don’t know much about it’s games aside from reviews and screen-shots…